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Old 07-16-2007, 03:59 PM
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Hmm... I don't want y'all to think that I've forgotten about this issue. I haven't and am working it.

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Old 07-16-2007, 04:13 PM
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Can I get one of you to send me your default.ini and whatever other ini files you are using?

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Old 07-16-2007, 08:26 PM
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These are what I set by opening the ini with notepad...

default.ini
version = 0.8.9.111
Longest Possible Commercial Segment = 400
Longest Possible Individual Commercial = 125
Shortest Possible Commercial Segment = 10
Shortest Possible Show Segment = 35.5
alwaysMarkBeginSeconds = 0
alwaysMarkEndSeconds = 0
neverMarkBeginSeconds = 0
neverMarkEndSeconds = 0
alwaysMarkBeginBool = 0
alwaysMarkEndBool = 0
neverMarkBeginBool = 0
neverMarkEndBool = 0
Classifier Type = 1
[Average Classifier]
Weight AR = 25
Weight CC = 25
Weight EP = 25
Weight Length = 25
[Legacy Classifier]
Length Too Long = 0.1
Low Probability Length = 1
Length Too Short = 1
Medium Probability Length If Combined = 1
Medium Probability Length = 1.5
High Probability Length If Combined = 1
High Probability Length = 2
Edge Profile Positive Match = 0.1
Edge Profile Negative Match = 2
Edge Profile Unknown Match = 1
Closed Caption Mismatch = 1.5
Aspect Ratio Mismatch = 2
Commercial To Show Threshold = 15
Show To Commercial Threshold = 10
[Segmentation]
Preselector Method = 1
Preselector Threshold = 50
Divide At Blank Frame = 1
Divide At Scene Change = 0
Divide At Double Scene Change = 0
Divide At AR Change = 0
[Advanced]
Border Top = 8
Border Bottom = 8
Border Left = 8
Border Right = 8
Padding Start = 0
Padding End = 0


If I open Showanalyzer Config program and set "Percentile" then File-Save All this is what is saved...

default.ini
version = 0.9.0.200
Longest Possible Commercial Segment = 400
Longest Possible Individual Commercial = 180
Shortest Possible Commercial Segment = 44.5
Shortest Possible Show Segment = 35.5
alwaysMarkBeginSeconds = 0
alwaysMarkEndSeconds = 0
neverMarkBeginSeconds = 0
neverMarkEndSeconds = 0
alwaysMarkBeginBool = 0
alwaysMarkEndBool = 0
neverMarkBeginBool = 0
neverMarkEndBool = 0
Classifier Type = 1
[Average Classifier]
Weight AR = 25
Weight CC = 25
Weight EP = 25
Weight Length = 25
[Legacy Classifier]
Length Too Long = 0.1
Low Probability Length = 1
Length Too Short = 1
Medium Probability Length If Combined = 1
Medium Probability Length = 1.5
High Probability Length If Combined = 1
High Probability Length = 2
Edge Profile Positive Match = 0.1
Edge Profile Negative Match = 2
Edge Profile Unknown Match = 1
Closed Caption Mismatch = 1.5
Aspect Ratio Mismatch = 2
Commercial To Show Threshold = 15
Show To Commercial Threshold = 10
[Segmentation]
Preselector Method = 0
Preselector Threshold = 60
Divide At Blank Frame = 1
Divide At Scene Change = 0
Divide At Double Scene Change = 0
Divide At AR Change = 0
[Advanced]
Border Top = 8
Border Bottom = 8
Border Left = 8
Border Right = 8
Padding Start = 0
Padding End = 0
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Old 07-17-2007, 09:03 PM
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After you did a save all, the ini file correctly set the preselector to 0 (which signifies "manual"). Does it still show "percentile" in the SchoolHouse?

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If I open Showanalyzer Config program and set "Percentile" then File-Save All this is what is saved...
Preselector Method = 0
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After you did a save all, the ini file correctly set the preselector to 0 (which signifies "manual"). Does it still show "percentile" in the SchoolHouse?
No it shows "manual" but I had set it to "percentile" before I saved the settings... So I change it to "percentile" and save the settings, close the config program and open it again and it shows "manual" so I change it to "percentile" and save the settings, close the config program and open it again and it shows "manual" so I change it to "percentile" and save the settings, close the config program and open it again and it shows "manual" etc etc etc... I am understanding that you set it to "percentile" and save then it should show "percentile" when you open the config program again right? The only way commercials get found correctly for me is if it is "percentile" and the only way I can do that is if I edit the default.ini manually and set Preselector Method = 1 using notepad.

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Old 07-17-2007, 11:51 PM
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Thank you for your patience and excellent description of the symptoms. I have found and fixed the problem.

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Old 07-18-2007, 01:40 AM
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No problem... I hope I did not sound impatient... completely the opposite... I greatly appreciate your fantastic efforts and I understand this is not all you do in life. Only glad I could offer some assistance!!

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I've got an XP Box (for all practical purpposes of discussion I think it would be the same as an MCE2005 Box). Loaded SA Config. Changed setting to 'precentile'. Saved. Exited. Came back, its on 'manual'. Tried through Schoolhouse, the same happens.

Actually I tried changing several other parameters and saving, everytime the original configurations came back, both thru SA and thru schoolhouse. Almost as is the default settings are never overwritten with a save.

Even if I add a new profile and change the settings and save. It still comes back with the default settings. Hope this helps.
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Old 08-19-2007, 12:28 PM
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Just wondering if this fix is near completion...??

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Thank you for your patience and excellent description of the symptoms. I have found and fixed the problem.

Again, thanks,
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Old 08-21-2007, 01:15 AM
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I'd also like to ask when this fix is going to be released?

I need to be able to set the preselector threshold to a lower value to be able to pick up commercials for a number of programs that I record, but I can't do it at the moment.

It's not just SchoolHouse that's not picking up the change - ShowAnalyzer itself isn't picking up the saved setting

Please please please release the fix!!!!
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